I argue that as many hate filled and ignorant liberals there are
in the world there are an equal number of hate filled and
ignorant conservatives in the world. Riots are not exclusive to
people who are liberal in political opinion. I do value the
democratic process but to even suggest that the controversy
surrounding the 2000 presidential election would have panned
out any different in your eyes had the situation be flip-flopped
is downright ridiculous. Imagine if the supreme court of
California decided how the state's votes were to be counted?
Although it may be hard to consider you would be upset and
frustrated with the system, I doubt any conservative would
not be upset still. To think that exercising the right to protest,
a constitutional right (amendment#1), is anything but patriotic
shows a level of ignorance hard to comprehend. Because
some don't agree with the 'type' of protest (of course
excluding any violent acts or rioting), does not make that
protest wrong...or right for that matter...it is just a
constitutionally allowed protest written as "the right of the
people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
Government for a redress of grievances"
In regards to my personal message about the peaceful
transfer of power vs. my point about the supreme court
decided election of 2000 ). The peaceful transfer of power
was appreciated as much then as it will be appreciated
tomorrow. The foundation of my opinion of the USA and our
constitution hasn't changed, then or now. I don't like Barack
Obama because he is liberal or a democrat...that is, to me,
like rooting for a sports team (e.g. I am a Seahawks fan and
YOU are a New England or Arizona fan)...I don't think like
that...I am able to separate my political viewpoints from my
emotion...unlike my psychotic fanaticism for the Seattle
Seahawks NFL team. It isn't about 'going my way' Becca, its
that I felt (through consuming all sort of media...balanced
media in my opinion) the American people were shrouded in a
controversy that minimized the power of our democracy. The
controversy was solved with bitter bitter hatred from the
extremes on both sides (your use of the word hatred in
reference to me or any liberal is chilling) but, for me, the
controversy still sits uneasy. I felt that we rushed through the
judicial process and that it was handled by people that were
not even elected as representatives of the American people.
The details are outlined well on wikipeida
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_president
ial_election,_2000#Florida).
I am not aware of Obama bashing the conservative party in
any way...or any members of his cabinet; do you have
examples? I argue that he has done everything in his power
through the election and since to NOT bash or allow bashing
on his behalf. His followers and liberal friends? I just don't
know, I cannot speak for any of them...nor can he. What I do
know for sure is that he has not requested, asked or even
implied that the 'liberal' Americans should be up in arms
towards 'conservative' Americans. Have you heard different
from him? I am also unable to speak to Barack's desire to mimic
Abraham Lincolns presidency; I have yet to read any article
that implies that Lincoln is Barack's sole presidential role model.
And as far as President Lincoln being a republican? Ok, cool
with me...but he was an American first...like me...like you. No
one has the exclusive rights to how much one cares for fellow
man...democrat or republican.
Your points on the 'failures' of liberals and 'successes' of
republicans is a bit elementary. For starters:
Abe Lincoln was a republican therefore the republicans freed
the slaves...hence...democrats were fighting to maintain a
slave ownership society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln).
Doesn't that just seem odd to say? Howmany people do you know who
think black people are inferiorin any way? IF you know any, how many
of those are 'liberals'or 'Democrats'? I would argue that most (maintained) hatred
towards race centers around a less educated sub culture of
our society both democrat and republican. A historical note on
Abraham Lincoln: he was apart of many political parties Whig,
Free Soil, Liberty and Democratic...after which he was
instrumental in forming the republican party. Ultimately Lincoln
formed the National Union Party, a blend of the (then)
republican and democratic parties. However, during his time in
office as POTUS he was both republican and NUP. A note on
the NUP:
The National Union Party was a political party in the United
States from 1864 to 1868. It was an alliance between
members of the Republican Party who backed incumbent
President Abraham Lincoln and Northern Democrats (plus a
few anti-Confederate Southerners such as Andrew Johnson)
during and after the Civil War. Thus, for a brief period, the
Republican Party ceased to exist.
Sheesh, the Vietnam War...that war spanned a long long time
and implying that a 'democrat' started the war is a bit trivial in
the full scope of the war. I don't have a one liner to try and
debunk what you wrote in regards to the war...I encourage
you to start here though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#During_John
_F._Kennedy.27s_administration.2C_1960.E2.80.931963
I think that this statement/accusation towards me was totally
uncalled for an unprovoked:
"You should actually try looking into some of the crap that the
liberal press and politicians are spewing before you go
spewing it yourself...you might be amazed at what you find."
I read SO much...I watch SO much...I study SO much that
implying that I gather my views from what some ignorant
liberal pundit is spewing is...well...deeply and personally
insulting. Becca, how could you possibly know what my
sources are? You only know my political views through a
website and a couple of antagonistic comments! Please know
that I do not feel the same way about the things I disagree
with you on; you opinion is as valid as mine however, I argue
they are both just opinions.
I beg you, if you desire to converse about our core beliefs
and political affiliations...lets remove the personal attacks.
May I just be your token liberal friend you make fun of but still
enjoy who I am? Please.
your friend,
Aaron
Not Me:
Funny how we are "all Americans" now that Bush is leaving
office...the liberal rhetoric was quite different over the past 8
years.
I'm not going to waste my time picking your e-mail apart,
because frankly I have better things to do.
I've tried (with little success) to be friends with liberals on
many occasions. It's always the same thing that I can't take,
and you said it yourself - the antagonistic comments. My
personal experience with liberals is that few have the
discipline or class to keep their mouth shut - most are
antagonistic by nature.
Please don't reply, I'm done.
Becca
sad.